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Discussion in 'ZB Holden Commodore (2018)' started by southerncross, Aug 1, 2019.

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    My ol VP is just my work car mate. I have a real Aussie HSV for rounding up zbs
     
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    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    One day you'll be faced with a horrible choice. Even the VF won't last forever.
     
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    Yeah I know mate. Freaks me out thinking about it
     
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    #metoo
     
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    in actual fact ,usually farmer Bob will make the call on the vehicles , I collect milk from a lot of their farms
     
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    Funny thing is, people make comments like this, but when it comes to the crunch, they fail miserably.

    Unfortunately, the market place is leaning towards smaller cars, FWD's, SUV's, AWD's and 4WD's....It is also leaning away from V8's....

    I can see Holden was trying to cash on this market, with the release of the ZB, but unfortunately haven't met peoples expectations.....We can only hope, with the release of a new model, they learn from their mistakes and start floating towards the top of the new car sales market.

    The other sad thing is, all car manufacturers seem to copying each other with how a car looks....But this has been happening for years and I can't see it changing in the immediate future
     
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    The funny thing about this comment is, I round up VP V8's with my 48 year old stock 6 banger.....The only modification is, a set of extractors, because the exhaust manifolds have a habit of cracking and it's getting extremely difficult to find un cracked ones...
     
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    Mine goes alright mate
     
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    On the topic of SUVs, I think two reasons people might like them is that (a) they are a little more spacious and the upright seating position is easier on at least some people's bodies, and (b) even SUVs are plenty quick enough now given how low speed limits have gotten, and how rigorously they are enforced. Related to this, it could well be that lowering and enforcement of speed limits has reduced demand for V8 sedans and the like - not so much point buying a $50k toy if you aren't allowed to play with it :-(
     
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    The problem is, is it worth spending hundreds of millions of dollars in development of a car in a rapidly shrinking global market? I think we all know the answer.

    A pom at work when he first saw it thought it was a Merc.

    I have a solution! Get the Australian Federal Government to change Australia to LHD so Cadillac can sell the CTS-V there.
     
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    Just putting it out there.... C8!
     
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    Only GM can answer that question......And it's not really shrinking....Just more manufacturers entering the market, which shrinks the market for everyone
     
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    I think GM has made its intentions very clear in recent times. Car production in the US is being cut back with numerous models being curtailed, car plants being closed and truck production being stepped up. Sedan production seems to be transferred to China. The sell-off of Opel, dumping of SAAB and closure of Holden emphasises the company's plans. I reckon the Australian car production suffered because of the weird support of the US market for buying trucks as daily drivers. They are the most profitable vehicles to build and enjoy a huge proportion of an enormous market. For the world demand for GM cars, rather than trucks, China and Mexico provide cheap labour and plants like those in Korea and Thailand take care of other market sectors such as small and mid sized SUVs and medium sized 4 door utes.
    Australia was never going to figure in long range plans due to our far higher labour and power costs and corporate tax rates. I believe the decision to shut down Holden really started with the GFC, not five years later in 2013. Once it became necessary for a government bail-out, GM started to look seriously at cutting models, rationalising and selling off plants and brands and abandoning traditional markets to survive. They haven't finished yet. I reckon we all know who's next.
     
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    Go to any Australian Port and you will see some currently rolling off the RO/RO ships :)
     
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    The French probably lost the 2019 stamp in that case then I reckon
     
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    Wonder if we're going to see MY20 facelift models soon then?
     
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    Do you have proof these are 2019 plated cars? Or are these just 2018 models that have been sitting overseas since last year?
    Still only 2018 models advertised anywhere in the new cars section on car sites. You'd think if the 2019's had landed they'd be advertising and taking orders......
     
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