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What will be the next car brand to leave Australia?

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In recent times we've had Infiniti, now Holden leave the Australian market.
With an overcrowded, cutthroat marketplace, rapidly falling sales and a poor economic outlook, I'm tipping Holden won't be the last to exit.
So what other brands could be on the brink?
 

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I'll start a list of brands unlikely to leave, and then you can cross off what is left.
Toyota.
Hyundai.
Kia.
Mazda.
 

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Alfa or Peugeot
 

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I'll start a list of brands unlikely to leave, and then you can cross off what is left.
Toyota.
Hyundai.
Kia.
Mazda.

Can't see Subaru leaving anytime soon

Maybe Haval, LDV and Great Wall ? but that's about it and they're no great loss in my opinion.
 

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Here's the list from car advice:-

Sales by brand:

Car brand 2019 sales Change over 2018
Toyota
205,766 -5.2%
Mazda 97,619 -12.3%
Hyundai 86,104 -8.6%
Mitsubishi 83,250 -2.0%
Ford 63,303 -8.4%
Kia 61,503 4.6%
Nissan 50,575 -12.3%
Volkswagen 49,928 -11.8%
Honda 43,868 -14.9%
Holden 43,176 -28.9%
Subaru 40,007 -20.0%
Mercedes-Benz 38,604 -2.4%
Isuzu Ute 25,311 -8.4%
BMW 23,307 1.1%
Suzuki 17,310 -1.7%
Audi 15,708 -19.1%
Lexus 9,612 9.0%
Land Rover 8,879 -12.0%
Renault 8,634 -13.8%
MG 8,326 176.9%
Volvo Car 7,779 16.2%
Skoda 7,001 20.6%
LDV 6,480 6.9%
Jeep 5,519 -24.7%
Porsche 4,161 6.4%
MINI 3,204 -10.8%
RAM 2,868 296.7%
Peugeot 2,445 -13.8%
Jaguar 2,274 -15.1%
Fiat 2,053 -17.4%
Haval 1,706 169.5%
Great Wall 1,401 78.7%
Ssangyong 1,040 NA
Alfa Romeo 891 -30.3%
Infiniti 571 -12.0%
Maserati 482 -24.9%
Citroen 400 -19.0%
Chrysler 292 16.8%
Ferrari 257 6.6%
Bentley 191 -8.2%
Lamborghini 147 9.7%
Aston Martin 129 -22.8%
Genesis 103 442.1%
McLaren 88 0.0%
Lotus 57 1.8%
Rolls-Royce 55 37.5%
Alpine 35 9.4%
 

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So how do Subaru do it if Holden are still selling more than them ? I will say that that list is a bit out of date now as it's 2018~2019 and we're now 2020 and things have changed a bit.

Many of those lower entries of that list are expensive Euro cars that will always be sold in lower quantities but simply hold the prestige badge of honour. Must admit I'm quite surprised to see Benz up that high on the list, but then they do sell heaps in Melbourne and Sydney compared to Adelaide where they sell bugger all and probably SA has the highest Haval sales in the country.
 

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Maybe Haval, LDV and Great Wall ? but that's about it and they're no great loss in my opinion.
You're predicting they will go ? I'm predicting that they will increase their sales.
They are getting their s*** together, tomorrow's buyers will look at their prices and standard features, forget place of origin and splash cash.
Who said Jap cars won't sell in Straya in the '70s ? Who said the same about Hyundais and Kias in the 90's ?
Now, we are saying the same about Chinese cars.
I would not be surprised when Rory comes off the GM dealer building, Great Wally will replace him.
 

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I'm predicting that they will increase their sales.
You're probably right to be honest. I just can't get my head around how many can afford to buy a brand new Toyota Girlie Truck at over $50K and still survive when we all seem to be so price conscious nowadays and that's where the Chinese are just shitting it in.

Eventually China will be a Superpower while we become a Third World country. I'm seeing it already.
 

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You're probably right to be honest. I just can't get my head around how many can afford to buy a brand new Toyota Girlie Truck at over $50K and still survive when we all seem to be so price conscious nowadays and that's where the Chinese are just shitting it in.

Eventually China will be a Superpower while we become a Third World country. I'm seeing it already.
Yip said that long time ago, Australia be renamed to Asia pacific soon without them investing or buying up our land and business we be screwed. We totally need China as trade partners or we are sunk.
 

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Alfa or Peugeot
PEUGEOT = at least I'd rather , Alfa = I'd have that Gulia sedan.

Know it's an old saying/ statement /post = but driving a classic alfa and / or ( preferably both) , bmw 6 na = if you're more than 1 eyed motorest /enthusiast can't beat the experience of more than one!!!!!!
 

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Eventually China will be a Superpower while we become a Third World country. I'm seeing it already.
We totally need China as trade partners or we are sunk.
It's sad isn't it, we need to sell our souls and children's futures to the Chinese in order to survive?
I sometimes wish I could go back and live in the 70's and 80's, because the Australia of today is fast becoming a disgraceful shithole.
 

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So how do Subaru do it if Holden are still selling more than them ?
Simple really. Australia is not Subaru's only market. The case for Holden and it's local manufacturing may have been stronger if GM had not stolen Holden's export markets. Ford also proved GM execs had their heads buried firmly up their arses when they made the new Mustang in RH drive and sent it down under. GM totally missed the boat.
 

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It's sad isn't it, we need to sell our souls and children's futures to the Chinese in order to survive?
I sometimes wish I could go back and live in the 70's and 80's, because the Australia of today is fast becoming a disgraceful shithole.
Our parents and grand parents, plus family members went to war and lost their lives for our freedom now our leaders have surrendered and taken the enemy money and sold our souls to them, our loved ones be turning in their graves what this country has become selling our wealth that belongs to people of this country so we have nothing now to be proud of, we haven't had a decent PM since the late Bob. Australia national anthem is a joke the words are just empty words. Come to Australia they say a country of plenty!! Plenty of taxes, bring your own cigarettes though or you be charge 40 bucks in tax for a pack of 40's.
 

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Yep. Parliament House. Nobody wants to buy it because the occupants refuse to leave.
I wish that was true, they are far from being Aussie they serve their masters the world elites and like the good puppets they are say yes to them all the time, section 44 of our constitution is always out trumped by foreign power and wealth, they get away with murder, just look at the dual citizen saggar they should of being charged with treason and served prison sentence. Don't think their kindergarten is for us its far from it.
Have a look at the past 20 years they more focused on themselves passing the 6 figure pension retirement fund around among themselves, we had more PM in 20 years than the whole 20th century they are a burden to us, you have Jo Hockey in the US getting around 80k a year pension on top of his 500k salary, do I have to mention Turnover the corrupt banker millionaire who is one of the world elites who ripping off our taxes after destroying Australia. Canberra house is not Australian..
 
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