I didn't say "a VE is better than a VF". Its simply not the case. Don't get me wrong, the VF is a definite improvement over the VE. I just said that for me personally, I'd rather buy a VE. In my opinion, a VF is basically a slightly improved VE with more technology and a more 'upmarket' interior. While there were aspects of the VF which I did like better than the VE, it was all the BS intrusive parking aids, beeping and stupid electric park brake that put a dampener on whole package from my perspective. That is what makes me prefer the VE because the VF simply drove me insane. In fact, I'll go a step further. Although I've always liked Holdens much more than Fords, I'd pick an FG pov pack over any V6 VE or VF.