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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by minux, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. UTE042_NZ

    UTE042_NZ Well-Known Member

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    Never let facts get in the way of a truth.
     
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    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    Here is some interesting. Human Trafficking is off the rails...

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    https://www.essex.police.uk/news/es...fter-39-people-found-dead-in-lorry-container/

    Murder investigation launched after 39 people found dead in lorry container
    We have since confirmed that eight of the deceased are women and 31 are men and all are believed to be Chinese nationals.

    Update: Thursday 24 October 2019 11:37

    A 25-year-old lorry driver from Northern Ireland remains in custody after 39 people were found dead in Grays yesterday morning, Wednesday 23 October.

    We have since confirmed that eight of the deceased are women and 31 are men and all are believed to be Chinese nationals.
     
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    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    As Good As Gold Australia youtube channel.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClzSFvylrK8ij3KVwrHzjdA


    Published on Nov 1, 2019

    In this compelling interview, Brian & Darryl Panes connect with precious metals industry icon, Bill Holter of www.JSMineset.com, and discuss the growing debt bubble, the dilemma of zero and negative interest rates, and how debt is outstripping the money in circulation. Bill confirms that central banks are 100% out of ammunition. What happens if there is a failure to deliver at the COMEX, and what would that do to the price of Gold? How about Gold at $87,000 per oz minimum. What does one do to protect themselves against this unstoppable, oncoming economic Armageddon?

     
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    Australia’s dirty political secret

    "even amid all the fire and fury of political and parliamentary life, politicians always used to work together behind the scenes to get things done. They would shake hands, do deals and share jokes behind the Speaker’s chair. "

    "This was Australian politics’ dirty little secret: The people that pretended to hate each other actually quite liked each other."

    https://www.news.com.au/national/jo...t/news-story/bdd12e051fcf6618fed22a0c4cc828df
     
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    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    The new Geezer?

    Making a religious connection with this Jackass?


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    The association board says it is "aware of the importance of raising awareness about the environmental situation."

    The Fray Hernando de Talavera de la Reina Residents' Association (Toledo, Spain) has offered Swedish activist Greta Thunberg a donkey to travel from Lisbon to Madrid, where she will attend a summit on the sidelines of the COP25 meeting.

    On its Facebook page, the association board says it has decided to join the young activist's struggle because it is "aware of the importance of raising awareness about the environmental situation."

    Read more in TSF

    https://www.plataformamedia.com/en-...key-so-she-can-travel-to-madrid-11583732.html

    Gospel accounts
    Jesus then rode the donkey into Jerusalem, with the three Synoptic gospels stating that the disciples had first put their cloaks on it (presumably to make it more comfortable). Matthew 21:7 maintains that the disciples laid their cloaks on both animals.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Messiah's_Donkey

    In Jewish tradition, the Messiah's Donkey (Hebrew: חמורו של משיח) refers to the donkey [1] upon which the Messiah will arrive to redeem the world at the end of days. In Modern Hebrew the phrase "the Messiah's donkey" is used to refer to someone who does the 'dirty work' on behalf of someone else.
     
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    Skydrol Well-Known Member

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    The Truth Factory's Cat-nadian cat has some fatcs on the GW scam.

     
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    Here is some to think... the New Concentration Camp, Ghetto, Gulag, Project.... Oh! Wait, what is the euphenism for all that?

    The All-Inclusive City

    Sounds like an amussement park, sounds good, must be good, lets go!

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    “Qualified citizens” – those who meet as-yet undisclosed criteria – will be allowed to live in the city and are free to leave whenever they wish, says Nason, who adds, “Some might want to stay forever.”

    According to a press release, the all-inclusive city which hopes to overtake San Francisco as the mecca of America's homeless, will offer high-density housing in dormitories consisting of sleeping quarters and communal bathrooms with private showers. Additionally, residents would be provided RFID-enabled wristbands to be tracked constantlygain access to their dorm rooms as well as perform tasks such as job check-in, purchasing items with credits, medicine consumption, and more.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics...oned-californias-record-homeless-theres-twist
     
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    Here is some breweing in the US, to be more precised, Virginia State.

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    On Dems Virginia Gun Control: ‘We Will Not Comply’

    Over the last few months, Virginia Democrats have worked to pass extreme gun control measures in the state. In fact, a Democratic congressman went as far as to say that the National Guard may have to be used in order to enforce a door-to-door gun grab.

    “And ultimately, I’m not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law,” Rep. Donald McEachin said, according to Newsweek. “That’s his call, because I don’t know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be. But that’s obviously an option he has.”

    However, one National Guardsman — who reportedly opted to remain anonymous — will not be going along with state’s prospective gun control measures, writing a direct letter to McEachin that “we will not comply.”

    Here’s the letter, per Law Enforcement Today:

    Mr. McEachin, have you ever heard of a little thing called the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878? Apparently, you are not.

    Allow me to fill you in.

    The purpose of the act is to limit the military branches from enforcing laws against US. citizens.

    How do I know this? I am one of them and will be one of the first to lay down my gun and walk away.

    I will not be a pawn in a tyrannical game of human chess. Neither will most of the men and women I serve with.

    https://dailysounder.com/national-g...sDEcXQvAfM4mqPMRy4iboJLqhgjkDb2sGkaImecwy0cMo
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    ^^^ Clearly the answer is to start teaching our kids how to handle their weapons earlier. Might be a good thing to squeeze in-between play time in the sand pit and morning snack time at kinder.
     
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    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    Sorry Skydrol, old mate. Most Australians will NEVER understand the American obsession with gun ownership. Sporting groups, farmers, veterinarians certainly. Most of the rest of us.. no way.
     
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    I understand your reasoning. As I said before, the 2nd Amendment is to provide the means for the population to defend themselves against tyranny. However, it is an option, nobody forces you to purchase a firearm. The idea has been twisted through the years.

    Lately, there is a push from the Gov to "Defang" the population. They (Gov) always get push-back from the population. Is percieved as an "attack" from the Gov. If they are so benevolent, why the fear? Trust is a 2 way street, so why worry?

    The post was not to convince anybody to be pro or con on the issue. Is more about showing, in a neutral manner, what is happing on this Gov push and the people are pushing back.
     
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    Understood. We see the news reports of school shootings or nut bags opening up from hotels into crowds and the inevitable cries for gun control from local leaders or victims relatives. Its that push-back that's surprising. It isn't just the NRA, it's often celebrities who make public statements about the right to own guns. The mentality of arming teachers so that they can take out shooters is abhorrent, too. It's like an arms race between good and bad. There was a lot of talk when Australia had its national gun surrender in 1996 and it has often been said that only legally owned weapons were surrendered. The crimes kept theirs, so in theory, we disarmed the populace and left them at the mercy of the armed criminal element. However, the sort of mass shootings you have over there is extremely rare here. The community just doesn't have the right to bear arms as part of our constitution or our thinking.
     
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    Yes you are right on arming the teachers and so on, I find that myself excessive. However, creating that doubt of armed or not armed might keep someone from not doing anything. There is also a copper patroling the schools for protection too.

    On the mass shootings is somewhat of an oddity. I can say, 99.9% of them are made by some sort of medicated crazy indivudual. We find that kind of behavior odd and suspicious they get "killed" each time. On one incident, the cops assigned to the school, they just sat outside and did nothing.

    Looks like the Police and the Military are dividing themselves on this dilema. The US Constitution, the supreme rule of the land states one thing, politicians and other head of states want to bend/circumvent the law. The 2nd Amendment states clearly the Gov shall make no law, is a restriction for the Gov, not a right given to the people.

    However, there is a caveat.... We can Repeal that Amendment. That is the correct, legal and civil way to remove such restriction (Gov). How come they do not want to go that route instead of pussyfooting around the Law? Easy, the vast majority will not surrender the right to defend themselves.

    We are heading to interesting times, tensions are rising.
     
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    Well, Oz also has medicated crazies, but they use knives and metal bars, so that limits any collateral damage to their immediate targets. If they had access to automatic firearms, we may be just same as USA.
    As for the crazies being "killed', quick end, no money for bleeding heart lawyers, publicity finished, and the crazy consigned to forgotten unknown history...…. unlike 'celebrities' like Martin Bryant, Charlie Manson, Mark Chapman, etc.
     
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    Looks like Spain is seriously thinking out of the EU. Finally, they are finding their lost "cojones". The EU is nothing more than a doomed "Central Bank's Hotel California" sh¡t show.

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    https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019...land-in-shock-threat-to-quit-eu/#.Xgqs-DNOkwA

    Spain’s third biggest party Vox is under huge pressure to back the Spanish version of the Brexit referendum, following growing fury at an ECJ ruling this week. Vox’s own party president lambasted the EU, claiming when the ECJ overruled Spanish courts, it had humiliated the country and its sovereignty.

    Santiago Abascal, the president of Vox

    On Thursday, the EU’s top court ruled a jailed Catalan separatist leader should have parliamentary immunity. Oriol Junqueras was one of nine pro-independence leaders jailed in Spain after an illegal independence referendum.

    However, in May he was elected to the European Parliament as an MEP.

    The ruling rejected Madrid’s arguments that Mr Junqueras did not qualify as an MEP because he had not sworn an oath to the Spanish constitution. A furious reaction among Spaniards even led ‘Spaxit‘ – the Spanish exit of the European Union – to become trending on Twitter.

    Vox President Santiago Abascal criticised the judges in Luxembourg who ruled that Mr Junqueras, who was sentenced to 13 years for sedition, should be freed. He immediately tweeted that Spain “should not have to comply” with the ECJ ruling.

    He went on to claim that Spain should hit back at “this interference”, before adding that Vox “is not going to accept more humiliations”. Mr Abascal later tweeted: “Spain (as other countries do) should not abide by any judgement of those who attack our sovereignty and security.”

    Vox’s Twitter used the hashtag #EspañaLoPrimero, or Spain First.

    Vox, which took 52 seats in Congress at the last election, is the third biggest party in Spain and has seen its support surge in the past year. The party calls for the repatriation of powers from Brussels to national governments but has not publicly backed ‘Spaxit‘ yet, the far-right party is coming under pressure from its grassroots to campaign for a referendum to leave the EU.

    Related: Mr Johnson followed up with monumental victory at the general election last week by amending his Brexit bill before it passed the Commons.

    He ruled out extending the Brexit transition period beyond the end of 2020 , setting up a heated clash between Downing Street and Brussels.
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    By history of forever in the USA, that simply doesn't work. The presumption is the other side is packing something so lets shoot first. Taking the Australian situation, the presumption is the other side isn't armed in near all situations and our incidences of shootings is equally low.

    Whilst not unheard of, the incidences of such things in Aus are stupidly low, once again possibly due to the scarcity of fire arms. They are not impossible to get hold of but hardly in every house either.

    There simply isn't the will with enough people to do it. Simple as that.
     

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