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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by minux, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. AirStrike

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    If you can afford to live there than do it, if not, live within your means rather than pissing and moaning.
     
  2. Risky

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    Where I used to live in Sydney house prices in the early '70's were between $35,000-$40,000. Now, $1.2 million is the average. A crappy studio apartment is $700000. Even renting was astronomical.

    Didn't Joe Hockey tell us to get a better job so we can afford to buy a house in Sydney?

    I couldn't afford anything in my old suburb. I even went to the banks a number of years ago for a loan (I had substantial savings) & was knocked back so I took matters into my own hands. Invested online which paid off as it has today. I own my own home outright & I have my own pension, not substantial but enough to get me by. My original plan was to retire at 50 but mum got dementia so I had to retire earlier to make sure she is looked after.

    My job on the railways paid over $100K+. The crews were earning more than me after taking o/time in consideration. Yes we were all in the union. We earned our salaries/wages due to the dangerous nature of our work. Unfortunately due to the LNP in NSW wanting to sell off everything & save money, we got hit badly. My depot got privatised. Half of us took the redundancy while I had to find the other half jobs at other depots & succeeded. The company that took over my depot is run by a couple of ex-politicians which made us angry. The tender process was one-sided & from all accounts since I left the railways, they aren't doing a good job. I still get phone calls to this day asking if my crews can go do jobs that these idiots are supposed to do! The State govt is selling everything & that includes the railways, so I feel sorry for the Sydney commuters when they actually pay the real prices for train travel. What they did with the Newcastle truncation project is a damned disgrace & also illegal, but they still went ahead with it. Again those in charge of the light rail project have ex-politicians onboard.
     
  3. Risky

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    A few of the guys who worked under me were from the building industry & they weren't happy with the CFMEU. I've never been a fan of underhanded tactics. I know a few people in the union who were supposed to help their members helped themselves. I never had them in my depot & I wouldn't entertain them knowing what they were like. Those that we knew well in the union were the ones that would come out to see us. Not everywhere is perfect unfortunately but you have to look at the other side of the coin too.
     
  4. Reaper

    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Speaking about 'throwing out figures' - perhaps your argument would be stronger if you quoted facts. Sydney's median house price is $1mill - that is waaaaaaaaay different to the starting price. Further - no different to any other major city world wide - there are areas which are far far under that figure.
     
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    The LNP are a QLD party. So they wouldn't have done anything in NSW.
     
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    I was an engineer in the NSW RTA. In 2009, roadworkers got $50k, the ganger was on $55k and the foreman was on $60k. I as the junior engineer was on $68k. This was in Dubbo, but our counterparts in Sydney got the same $$$.

    I see many, many people whinging about traffic and house prices in Sydney. I get it that you may be close to family and friends but ultimately, staying in Sydney etc if you aren't happy is purely a voluntary decision. If your job/position is award based you are financially mad to stay in a larger city. Go bush. Less time commuting, way less money in rent and mortgages. The sense of community is far stronger, and people in general are friendlier and more laid back.
     
  7. Risky

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    Sheesh Raj, don't you read the papers mate. The state govt here loves to sell everything. You've regurgitated this line before & I hope the copy & paste was worth it.
     
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    All you need to do is go "L/NP", will keep the nitpicking at bay......
     
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    Anyway.....

    Greyhound racing banned in NSW from 2017.

    I appreciate the sport had its trauma and needed a very good clean up - but there was no attempt at all at external regulating.

    Thousands of decent, law abiding individuals have a lot of money and time tied up in the endeavour, however the numbers are still small enough that any campaign to bring it back would not be very effective.
     
  10. Risky

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    Lol @ nitpickers

    I've never been a grammar nazi. Typing Liberal Party of Australia (NSW Division)/National Party of Australia – NSW is a bit of a boring read.
     
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    Or you can just keep saying LNP
    Anyone with half a brain knows what you mean
    There isn't much difference between the 2 organisations both squandered huge majorities in less than one full term
     
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    The performance of the Newman and Anbott/Turnbull governments do have parallels but Newman lost because of his natural arrogance allied with harsh and heavy handed approaches to mending his state's financial position. This put a lot of voters offside.

    Abbott tried to do the same thing in 2014 after making absolutely stupid promises during the election campaign but at least he tried to fix the financial position as he had promised.

    Turnbull on the other hand has achieved virtually nothing over nine months except lose a lot of personal popularity with voters.

    The problem for all parties now is that voters don't like the hard decisions that need to be taken to repair the economy. Try it and get kicked out of office.
     
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    The Nationals particularly irk me.

    The thing is they are supposed to represent the rural sector, but due to the Coalition agreements their policies are 99% the same as the Liberals. As a result they have adopted city-centric policies on lots of things. Coal Seam Gas, large mining in prime agricultural areas. I am surprised that the Nationals are quite silent on climate change. If I were a farmer, climate change/and or increased variability would be the number one concern as a healthy ecosystem underpins a strong water availability, good soils etc.

    Nonetheless, on election day I noted that virtually all Nationals vollies were pensioners so in the long term the voter base will die out.
     
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    But they have still won.
    In fact they have won 6 of the last 8 elections. Is that a good record or not?
     
  15. Risky

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    All politicians (regardless of political persuasion) have a lot to answer for on a lot of things.
     
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    From personal experience the AMWU and CMFEU are both waaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond 'a bit carried away'. They are at best common thugs and often fall way into the realm previously held by the mob in stand over rackets and the like.

    I'm fine with that as long as the union accept the responsibility they also carry in weather the organisation is successful or not.

    mmmmhmmmmm - socialism it is!

    I'd be interested to hear your idea of how the 457 subclass of the immigration act is written.
     
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    Well the Liberals have it.
     
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    They have less seats now than they did 9 weeks ago lol
     
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    Turnbull has been a huge failure. Unfortunately they don't have anyone else who is a likely leader.
     
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    Less seats in the lower house, less in the upper house. Usually one calls a DD election if you think you'll come out on top. Not this time.....he juuuust won but in a weaker position.
     

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