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Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Super Coach, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Super Coach

    Super Coach GTS, S, CV8Z, SSVR

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    All those prices listed inc GST, so GST shouldnt be added on again. Is he just showing what the GST was of the whole contract. Driveaway price for you should be 69,695. Is it you or the dealer telling you its $72,530

    Mine has a GST of $5,905 but my DA price is 67,522
     
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    The GST item is just to show the total amount of GST in the purchase, it hasn't been added twice. For tax purposes because some items are GST exempt (government duties, etc), it's easier to show a total GST figure, rather than breaking each line item down individually. Most contracts/invoices have the vehicle as one section and then total this section and then an on-roads section which separately shows the on-road costs that are GST-free.

    In general vehicle invoices can be confusing, especially if you don't deal with them on a daily basis.
     
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    The gst is right but you have to admit they bumped the car price up to match Holden's quoted rrp figure (including gst) except without gst. That seems very calculated and purposely deceptive, especially when it seems all dealers in Vic are doing the exact same thing.
     
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    This is pretty much exactly how my contract reads too.
    They aren't charging you twice, its just showing the contract includes a GST amount of **** but in reality its pretty much the amount thats included in the RRP of the car (which includes GST) before the rest is added.
     
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    Spoke to my dealer. His response was a mix of denial and ignorance.
    "The GST is split out by our system, I'm not really sure, that's just how the system puts on on the contract"

    When I told him Holden's RRP includes GST but on my contract I'm paying GST on top of the full amount he said, and I quote:
    "All you have to worry about is the number you pay at the end, $72,530"

    I'm going to sign my forms and pay the money, it's what everyone is paying, but damn its frustrating, would have at least appreciated a straight answer.

    Have to say, across the 3 dealerships I've had dealing with for my MSE the sales staff's competence has been questionable at best.
     
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    Can you post up a pic of your contract? Might help explain it and I can compare to how mine is set out.
    It does seem like your paying a bit more than others and im not sure where they are hiding it, maybe it is in that extra gst component like you say....
     
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    I have ordered MSE from Adelaide

    MSE manual - $56172.73
    Dealer delivery - $2727.27
    GST - $6217.34

    Looks like your dealer has increased the car cost instead of dealer delivery.
     
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    Super Coach GTS, S, CV8Z, SSVR

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    what a bullshit response, I would be speaking to the new car manager and telling them to write it out in front of you, not this "our system does it for us" all those prices you listed for the car and accessories are prices that inc GST already. Confirm with them if those figures are pre or after GST. It shouldnt be that hard for people who do these sales/contracts day in and day out.

    If you dont get straight answers, go interstate to Adelaide and get a better deal.
     
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    I reckon that there is an extra charge of $2,835 hidden somewhere which when is added to the DD comes to $4,199. If the dealer does the calc with you it will end up something like this.


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    good job gla.
     
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    $67,139incGST - $61790incGST =$5,349
    Now thats modern Piratecy
     
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    Thanks for this! I'm going to double check it then send it to them with a please explain. If the dealer wants to plead ignorance I'll go to the sales manager.
     
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    as I mentioned before and as has been highlighted by gla that extra 2,800 is a bit of WTF. Without that extra charge you should be paying 69,695DA
     
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    Hi Tomm0,
    I reckon that the link is for transferring a secondhand vehicle from one owner to another. https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registration/registration-fees/transfer-and-motor-vehicle-duty-fees seems to be for new vehicles which is actually a State Revenue Office fee collected by Vic Roads.
     
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    You are paying about $7,005.55 to the Australian Government, $4,489.00 to the Victorian government and $4,199.00 to the dealer.
    The only way to lower the tax is to get dealer costs down.
    'The man' always gets his share.
     
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    Thanks Gla, appears they used $10.40 per $200 for vehicles over $64132 (which we are just over) from the table on that page. Whereas some interstate quotes I got use the calculator on the page, which results in a lower figure. May also visit vicroads to verify if the $10.40 only applies to the amount above $64132.
     
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    Unfortunately it's not a sliding scale. As soon as you get over the threshold, the % goes up for the whole vehicle price. It's a form of LCT for the Victorian Government!
     
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    Here's an update everyone.

    I requested the details of the sales manager at my dealership and I requested a face to face to go through the itemised list provided above so I can once and for all get an honest admission on the extra charges. My dealer rang me and said here's the details but if you speak to him (the sales manager) you will lose the car. He said 2 others have also complained and had Directors taken off them (i.e. their money given back) and the allocation given to someone else. He sounded frustrated (for me) but told me in no uncertain terms not to speak with the sales director. So that's the end of that. I asked too many questions and they threatened to take my MSE off me if I went further.

    I'm not going to name the dealership i'm currently involved with, but I will say that all 3 dealerships I've dealt with in the last 6 months have really disappointed me and franky the level of communication is akin to people that haven't finished high school. Trying to get a straight answer has proven to be impossible across several different individuals and at the end its not the first time I've been met with a sales manager/dealer principle that won't budge and don't care about the customer's POV.

    I know Holden dealerships are under a lot of pressure but f*@k me, really poor service and lack of care factor seems to be rife.
     
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    Incredible, yeah like a double LCT, robbery. Wondering if those thresholds will increase like LCT in July, could make a fair difference.
     

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